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Douglas Hager's avatar

Excellent post. You've made an important point of emphasis here. It's very simple, but has somehow escaped much of what we read, hear and view these days.

"I believe...."

Why is this so hard for people to do, as opposed to definitive statements made as if someone has perfect knowledge? Any disagreement is treated as heresy. No shades of grey, just unequivocally bad or good. The former must be eliminated. The latter must be the only course of action.

There is much more that I could write here, but don't wish to violate my father's sage words that I first heard 60 years ago...."That guy likes to hear himself talk." However, I'll request a small favor to focus on one more sentence from your piece:

"It is particularly cruel to poison children and young people with this virus."

This. Yes.

A few months ago, upon reading an article regarding the Held v. State of Montana case, I was saddened to read about the youths who testified. From the pages of the esteemed NY Times:

"Many of the young plaintiffs testified about effects they had witnessed — extreme weather events that threaten family ranching, warmed rivers and streams that harm fish, wildfire smoke that worsens asthma and disruptions to nature that interfere with Indigenous traditions. They also spoke of the toll on their mental health, and the anguish they felt as they considered a future dimmed by environmental collapse."

I have a son who lives in Missoula. He went to college there twelve years ago and stayed. I hear nothing but positivity, and I've seen it for myself over the years on many visits. No anguish. Just appreciation. It's truly sad how these kids have been brainwashed.

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Pablo Hill's avatar

A lot to cover here, thanks opportunity to opine. Congras on the blow up, shout out to Doomberg. The natural progression from frontier, to developing, to developed economy requires primary base-load energy, delivered in the most economic manner possible. Economic means the most efficient in extraction, processing, & delivering. So great is the benefits of this primary energy that the primary reason for the dismantling of feudalism, slavery, & the ending of poverty can all be trace to humans discovery & progression of primary denser forms of energy. The current infrastructure set up requires this primary base load economic energy. There is no going backwards with energy, there is no reversion to the mean, we don't have to look to far then to Germany of for this. Once primary base-load economic energy was subtracted from their economy, they ran-understatement-back to the coal mine. Many will blame the war in Ukraine & the pipeline for this, however all that did saw pull forward the issue. And is should be intuitive, for two reason: 1) Introducing intermittent power into current energy infrastructure complex is akin to have one's access to base load primary energy denied or cut off. Visually this is what be called a blackout. 2) Societal pressures: no developed country citizenry would accept the alternative, again see Germany

Now it's not to say they people won't tolerate some discomfort, you can look to the whole of Europe and states like California. People will deal with the negative externalities up until the point that the system breaks, but not a broken system. Our current system can handle the intermittency/distribution for about 20-25% without incurring major negative externalities, but once you get beyond that, then you pass the pain that the citizens & the economy can take.

California kept it's nuclear plant because taken 9.2% of base load power offline would have been to painful. And while much has been made about Germany's grid now makeup of 52% renewables, the reality is renewable have grown as a % of it's grid because it has taken market share for coal because the LACK OF DEMAND for base load power! Meaning that as renewables are taken market share of Germany's grid because it's economy is in less demand for base load power, meaning Germany is in recession not because renewables make economic sense or that they are providing material benefit to Germany. And despite the "best intentions" of other world leaders, production & consumption of hydrocarbons are at an all time high. Canada has increased it's oilsand production to an all-time high, investments in the North Sea basin are increasing, etc. Western leaders have done an about face because the reality of their folly is apparent. Sanctions on Venezuela & Iran are being lifted by the West all to get access to capacity. America, despite of all the attempts by the current administration, production is at an all-time high at 13 million BOE for oil & 20 million BOE for total liquid fossil fuels. And if you dig further into the numbers you will find a mini energy revolution as citizens continue to fly-demand at pre-Covid-and drive as miles driving continues to inch higher.

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